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“relatively slow speed of light” - relatively to what? We cannot measure shared emotions, telepathy, synchronicity or any other phenomena. Since they cannot be measured, any comparison is unfounded. The “speed” at which non-local experiences travel may be a subjective opinion, but nothing more.

“infinitely faster” would suggest that we have a meter that is calibrated to the speed of light units - which we do not.

The official speed of light is yet another scientific fantasy - we have no means to measure it.

We have simply adopted the phrase as a synonym of something unreachable and unbelievable. How true, in both cases.

The issue of the transfer of “something” across the borderline between the tangible world and its perception is interesting, though. Again, we have no means to capture it or analyze in any way. If any device is built some time in the future, it will be tangible, which means that its very structure will be biased towards materiality.

The whole thing is a useless and futile pressure on the “scientific” view of life. Why would you need it? Measuring the inner world in the units of the external “reality” is unnecessary.

However, we do try to penalize the inner perceptions by making them liable for events in the tangible world. “I thought…”, “my impression was…”, “I believe…”, “I don’t recall…” are all references to the impossibility of bridging the two “worlds”.

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alan chapman's avatar

Thanks Dan, forgive me I wasn't at all considering the need to measure anything in a normal sense. You're correct in what you say, and you offer a much clearer interpretation of the issues I was raising, so thank you for taking time to read and comment so wisely. Certainly I'm wrong according to many perspectives in comparing things that can't be measured, and certainly subjectivity is not a basis for scientific measurement. And especially I love your words: "The whole thing is a useless and futile pressure on the “scientific” view of life. Why would you need it? Measuring the inner world in the units of the external “reality” is unnecessary."

"Measuring the inner world in the units of the external 'reality' is unnecessary," to me is a particularly beautiful and poignant line, and expresses very well to me many of the wonders of 'being in the moment', gratitude, peace, calm, etc.

Thanks again, Alan

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Dan...'s avatar

Alan,

A lovely reply, and an insightful inspiration, thank you. I feel we speak the same thing only with different words. However, in all my comments I always remember that readers won’t be focused only on your post/article and mine, and they will carry what they read into their own life and work. Which is why I ask a lot of questions, and try to find all undercurrents I can. It kind of feels more challenging than taking the first impression and staying with it oversatisfied.

We are all so schizophrenic, it’s amazing that we manage our daily stuff and survive. We’ve got one set of measures for business or job, but what we do in private is way below the baseline. It’s best seen in family life, obviously. We can’t go past feeling deep inside being not enough, playing jealousy, competition, miscommunication, dehumanizing the other, and inflicting emotional harm where we know it feels worst. Then we go back to work, play heroes, and pretend it’s all as if it should be. What’s most terrifying is that we are mostly not even aware of all this.

This is where the science mad pursuit of perfection and numbers playing terror over non-science meets falling in love, premonition, synchronicity that is a commonplace for people in love, visions in sleep that turn out to be replayed live in the awakened state, sudden unexplainable insights into the other person when we are in grief, and rebellious canceling of a lifetime career in a split second when you suddenly get it. And science always loses. Always.

Maybe because the mind can never fight life. And should not even try.

Have a great new year, make it a better one than all those that are gone in the past.

Regards, Dan

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alan chapman's avatar

Beautiful Dan. Loving grateful abundant energies to you. Alan

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